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We've Got to Talk, Fellow Viners.

Sat Sep 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT
entertainment, employee, spouse, employer, dialogue
By Truth be told-1349420
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We’ve got to talk…

Ouch! This is the most hostile phrase you don’t want to hear from your employer or your spouse which can raise your BP to critical level especially if the tone with which it is said does not sound too friendly. Those two bosses don’t invite you in for fun talk or jokes. When, especially, a spouse would say, “we’ve got to talk”, you start feeling a headache that wasn’t due yet until next year. In a split of a second, your mind reviews every possible thing you may have done or said wrong. And if you don’t calm down, you may even confess about something that is far from being the topic they want to discuss with you. Even when you know you are clean and clear like a summer sky, you still would like to dishonor this hostile invitation. Right away, you may start by asking when, what about, what the matter is. Now you may find yourself anxious to hear out the issue. If the talk appointment is postponed to another time, you keep asking yourself what the hell is he/she has to talk about. Until the time comes for that dialogue to take place, you make sure you are doing or saying everything precise and decent.

If you had a side affair date set with someone, you may want to postpone that date until after the talk you have to have with your boss (spouse) is undergone. You are like a goalkeeper praying that the player kick the ball in the direction you are planning to cover. And as the time is approaching for the séance to be held, you are monitoring the face expressions and gestures of your prospective interlocutor in an effort to predict if it’s going to be a case where you might or might not need a lawyer. You don’t know which alibi to brew. So get ready to do some critical thinking. In the meantime, you have the right to remain silent, for anything you say can or will be used against you during the course of dialogue.

Sometimes, when you finally presented yourself for the talk, you were told, “forget it for now, we’ll discuss it another day. At this point you feel like it’s not something very important to worry about after all. Well it might be that they are just compiling more arguments against you. Well, enough is enough, let the chips fall where they may. When your spouse or boss would summon you in for a talk, what usually is their subject? Could it be praise, raise, promotion, or reward? Or could it be complaint, salary cut, demand, demotion, divorce, or termination? Have you ever been improvised with the proposal, “We’ve got to talk…? How did it go? Can you make it fun to hear? We've got to talk fellow viners.

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Truth be told-1349420

We've got to talk fellow viners, with regard to CoH.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:03 PM EDT
Heckofawoman

Truth, I couldn't live like that........ I "truthfully" have never had anyone say to me "We need to talk"......but I sure have said it at times to others.LoL Your right about one thing, it's usually not a good thing, but it can be handled and dealt with in a constructive manner unless that person is defensive because they are feeling guilty. I'm not one to talk to someone and say "you this, or you that", I'll just state that I'm having a difficult time with something, so what are we gonna do about it?" My boss, whom I have know for many years, once called me, as she sometimes do on her cell phone and of course my first thought is "what is going on", but it's usually "can you do me a favor", like pick up an extra shift, send an e-mail to document something I may have witnessed or do a task for her. Otherwise, the only people, I forgot that address that question to me with is....my daughters,....go figure (but it's usually cause they want me hear of their problems, so I'll fix them)lol Gosh I hope this isn't going on with you....you don't seem to fit this mold, as you are very diplomatic. Hek (and if it is........Good Luck)lol

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:49 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

I "truthfully" have never had anyone say to me "We need to talk"......

Well, Hek, dear, "we need to talk". There, you are told for the first time. Start worrying.

Gosh I hope this isn't going on with you....you don't seem to fit this mold, as you are very diplomatic

Oh, believe me, I got slapped with this horrible phrase twice in the past when I surely was worrying to death for no reason. Many things went through my mind for three days before, she, my ex-wife, finally injected me with the content of her "We've got to talk" seringue. My worries were worse than those of a cheating spouse; for I knew, I was clear on that.

I did not rush her into telling me before time. Never rush a woman into anything. The very first scary thoughts that ran through my mind were: Is she gravely sick; Is she pregnant; is my mother-in-law moving in with us? is my child not my child. You see I had reason to worry. Before I was told which was what I started to prepare myself physically and emotionally. But thanks God she was only asking me to finance her a new car.

The second time, it was my boss who wanted me to assume a new position as a shift supervisor to monitor some fishy things that were taking place ont night shift.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
Heckofawoman

So they were not what you thought.....they were actually good! That's what I meant by what I said.....never been hit from behind with a brick or not see something coming. I address most or all issues as they happen, so there is no meeting behind closed doors for any problems.....but on the flip side, I've had to say it.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:42 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

Yes, Hek. you are right, it doesn't always imply bad news. But when you are invited for a talk by someone as delicate as your spouse or boss, you have reason to worry until you are talked to. But it still remain a phrase that torments the spirit of the invitee. Thanks my dear for your participation. So wouldn't you like to know what I have to talk about? I said "weve got to talk? He he he! start worrying?

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:59 PM EDT
Heckofawoman

Now what would I have to worry about from you? I invite your "We got to talk"...go for it! I get rather excited when someone says those words to me....I find it well...intriguing:)

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:48 PM EDT
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Tina-293371

That's never a good thing to hear.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:13 AM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

Believe me, It isn't. Thanks for commenting.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:52 PM EDT
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Vlad's dog

"We need to talk' is subtle and layered, did I not take out the garbage again, your pregnent, warts, traffic tickets.

And then the dread of waiting till "after work, we'll talk after work". Oh How can you even work?

And then finally you get home and it's "don't forget, you promised to take the dog for a walk tonight".

I swear it is a sword that is pointed and scary.

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:55 AM EDT
Heckofawoman

Vlad's dog, from a man's point of view.....I can see why!lol Like I said, it's usually been me that has used the term.....lol (but never to nag) nag, nag, nag....I hate those three words, lol

Hek:)

  • 5 votes
#4.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

If I would forget tptake the garbage out, she would be generous enough to put it at the doorway, this way I can't miss it.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:54 PM EDT
Heckofawoman

Wow, if your gonna go that far, then just go ahead and take it all the way. Geeesh, that's just wrong. I mean, I can take the trash out....what bothers me most is when someone expects to be waited on, or doesn't pick up behind themselves.....huge pet peeve. And yes, I'll bitch till they can't stand it anymore, and hopefully leave. Cause the day I stop talking, we are done.

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

I actually would like that my woman invite me more often for a talk rather than shuting up and have me guessing the meaning of her mean and/or sad face.

  • 3 votes
#4.4 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:06 PM EDT
Heckofawoman

Yes, exactly - not much gets accomplished that way. Usually, like I said, that's when I'm done. I say, I can do anything, I would want them to do...now asking for help should never be an issue.

  • 4 votes
#4.5 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

Very true.

  • 2 votes
#4.6 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT
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Vlad's dog

I grew up with a passive aggresive mother., they can tangled you up real quick.

I learned to blow it off a long time ago. I can smell it a mile away. I just go for a walk, maybe a mile or two and then walk back. :)

  • 7 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:10 AM EDT
Heckofawoman

You should give classes...lol I figured out a long time ago, that men are pretty easy to read, three basic things, let them eat when hungry, let them sleep when tired, let them work.....then they are putty in your hands. No need for unnessary "talk" when they can't focus during the most inopportune times right? It's true! I swear by it:)

  • 7 votes
#5.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:20 AM EDT
Vlad's dog

Yes work, I have written many things last night till this morning, working till the sun comes up, we are watching the dawn this morning. As soon as I see first light, I will pour coffee for my wife wake her up and we will walk out ot the end of the driveway and watch.

I will then paint till I pass out in the studio..

Maybe drive into town beuase the kids have went home for break and get a paper and breakfast. That is the extent of our labors. this week end, the rest is gravy.

here it comes....

  • 6 votes
#5.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:26 AM EDT
Heckofawoman

Sounds lovely........I'll be off Mon, and then for a day and a half I'll have some gravy too:) Enjoy your holiday weekend. Our weather here is beautiful...I can't believe it and going to miss it all. Hopefully Monday will still be as nice as it is right now. We missed a bullet with that hurricane taking a Northern turn, whew...but it sure brought some great weather.

  • 5 votes
#5.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:55 AM EDT
Vlad's dog

We had rain friday night all night, Saturday we drove down to Pittsburgh and hit rain. it was clouding up when we left there for home and then it was cool and still is cool, frost in two or three weeks.

First light was great.

  • 5 votes
#5.4 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 7:03 AM EDT
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jwc2blue

I been on both ends of that phrase.

On the giving end, you know what it is you want to talk about, what your points are, and what outcome you'd like to see.

On the receiving end, I used to get pretty anxious, but I've learned that the best way to handle it is based on the person announcing the need to talk. From most people, my response is;'O.K. What's on your mind?" In other circumstances however, it might be good to preface this with "Do I need an attorney/union representation or other trustworthy witness?

  • 8 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:47 AM EDT
Heckofawoman

LoL

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:49 PM EDT
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Mrs D-1475814

My husband uses that phrase but, when I want to talk to him I use the old "WTF are you thinking?" and then get to the point of the discussion. I can be pretty cool under pressure. He can't. I use the twenty-questions trick and he just gets tired of it and finally brings the issue to the forefront. Thanks, finally, now we can talk. I've never had this issue with a boss but, I'm sure I would use the same procedure. :-)

  • 6 votes
Reply#7 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

I hope if your boss invite you in for a talk, you don't start with " "WTF are you thinking?" That would probably get you the raise and or promotion we want. Thanks dear for stopping by.

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 5:01 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

I think the world would be a better place if more of us were able to go into see our boss and say WTF!

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

I support you on that. Let's Go do that and please, let me know how it comes out so I can try it too. But, before we do, let's get info about the nearest unemployment office. You're are a very brave person, vlad's dog.

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

I sort of learned what happens at the unemployment office, they don't like me much now.

I have been worse off, things get better when you use your brains I think.

  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Mon Sep 6, 2010 12:05 AM EDT
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Tim Boothby

When somebody says "We've got to talk," try saying "Oh, yes, yes we do," and watch their reaction in return.

  • 5 votes
Reply#8 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:45 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

That sounds like a defense mechanic to discourage the person from talking. But I sense it might work in some instance. However, some people will tell you regardless. And then there is this generosity from both part offering each other to go first, and since you didn't really have anything to say, you keep insisting that she/she goes first. After you've heard him/her out. they say. Okay, what is it thatyou wanted to talk about? You respond, "oh nothing really important. That's what I thought, she/he would reply. Married couples act funny sometimes.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:17 PM EDT
Tim Boothby

That sounds like a defense mechanic to discourage the person from talking

Depends, if you live or work with someone there's always something to talk about, and the odds that you don't know what they want to talk about are pretty slim. Well, unless you're completely unobservant.

and since you didn't really have anything to say, you keep insisting that she/she goes first.

Never in my life have I been at a lack for something to say. ;)

  • 4 votes
#8.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:23 PM EDT
Heckofawoman

Tim, I rather like that approach (as I've never been called in for anything bad), and if I was worried, that would be a good way to start! I did say once, "Oh great, I've been meaning to get up with you as well)", It sort of takes the edge off any uncomfortableness, on both parts. Or they old, "I look forward to seeing you, it's been awhile"....usually for me, once when my boss called me in her office, not because of a "talk", I said, "Okay, what did I do now?", lol Keeps things light. She is usually asking if I will take care of an issue for her or a task, but never bad. I tell on myself anyway,lol

  • 3 votes
#8.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

Never in my life have I been at a lack for something to say. ;)

Tim Boothby, when I said "you" I don't mean you in particular, but the general "You". Clarifying, just in case.

  • 3 votes
#8.4 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:24 PM EDT
Tim Boothby

Hehehe notice how I didn't pursue the Freudian implications of "you keep insisting that she/she goes first" ;)

  • 3 votes
#8.5 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:37 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

Alright, then. Thanks. Peace.
I meant to say he/she. But it looks like I have too many "s" at the tip of my fingers, Sorry for the mess.

  • 3 votes
#8.6 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:42 PM EDT
Tim Boothby

They've helped a lot with browser based spell checkers, I'm impatiently waiting for an on-the-fly a grammar checker because once the fingers get to flying there's no telling what can happen.

  • 3 votes
#8.7 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 11:10 PM EDT
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VerbalBarb

I had a boss who used to leave a written message on peoples' desks: See Me

....shudder...

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:55 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

That's another thing; and you can't stop seeing his/her face until then.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:19 PM EDT
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Larry Crehore

I have learned over the years in my house that the phrase We Need to Talk is actually a misnomer, what it really means, for the men who don't see it coming, is I have something I want to say and your job is to listen. Don't ever think you were supposed to take part vocally, you weren't expected to have anything to say in the first place. Learn these words Yes and Dear they are the accepted response to every question you may use them singularly or in combination but they must be used.

And here is the trumph card, I have my wife's permission to say this. roflmao

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:15 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

That sounds so true. Please ask your wife for permission to say more. You make sense. Thanks for coming by.

  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:28 PM EDT
Larry Crehore

At our house the conversation stays on neutral ground. We both know that the first person that makes an accusation has ended all communication because now the other party has to go on the defensive. In order to get the absolute most from our conversations we never accuse one another that way the verbal exchange will continue long after others will have fallen into what I call the combat mode. Accuse and defend, will never produce the desired results.

Glad you saw the levity in my first post TBT. lol

  • 3 votes
#10.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:10 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

We both know that the first person that makes an accusation has ended all communication because now the other party has to go on the defensive.

Yes, that's what it always ends up to when one party fears or undervalues the other as you clearly mention before. Thanks for your contribution.

  • 3 votes
#10.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
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Clara Listensprechen

I've heard this phrase a number of times in my life and have said it a number of times in my life, too. It's a phrase that indicates an issue, and oft-times issues can be worked through. It's better than NOT talking about them., for that lets issues to fester into cancers.

  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:32 PM EDT
Truth be told-1349420

It's better than NOT talking about them., for that lets issues to fester into cancers.

I agree. But sometimes, the tone and face expression of the person may make this talk undesirable. Doesn't it? Thanks a lot for your contribution. Peace

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT
tesla013

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! the only more diturbing phrases are...... some assembly required.............. new and improved............ _____— for you convienince. heysus that was close.

  • 1 vote
Reply#13 - Tue Sep 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT
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